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#1 Posted : Wednesday, 22 November 2017 12:20:12 PM(UTC)
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Hi Guys,
Purchased a van around 12 years ago, looking for some information on the VIN number’s ect..
Not sure how this works being a 1st time user, do I post the details on here or wait for a reply from someone?



Thanks, any help is appreciated.

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#2 Posted : Wednesday, 22 November 2017 12:35:52 PM(UTC)
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You can post up whatever you want, unless it is spam or offensive!
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#3 Posted : Wednesday, 22 November 2017 1:28:04 PM(UTC)
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thanks HK1837

detials off plates:

model:HJ80WM70
body:165255-A
trim:1898-19V
paint:567-15944
ENG: L32 TRANS: M20 AXEL: GU4

-75 (I took a really crap photo can't make out the month, but can check if its important)
GWV: 2200
Seat cap: 2
BHJ09188 M

8M70RF J497079

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#4 Posted : Wednesday, 22 November 2017 2:06:40 PM(UTC)
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Will suss it out when I get home. Might be a Sandman but impossible to tell from ID plates.
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#5 Posted : Wednesday, 22 November 2017 2:10:41 PM(UTC)
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thanks for your quick reply.

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#6 Posted : Wednesday, 22 November 2017 3:23:51 PM(UTC)
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Numbers go together OK, it will be 9/75. It is amongst a batch of 8 x consecutive PSN's of HJ vans out of the Dandenong assembly plant, 5 of them are L32 M20 or L31 M21 so good possibility it is a batch of 5 Sandmans. I already had some data on this car, I have an engine number for it and can confirm it if you have its original. I think it was sold new by Reg Hunt Rhodes Limited in Elsternwick Vic.

1898 is Deauville Blue metallic and 19V is black vinyl trim. It is optioned with 4.2L high comp engine, and also optioned with M20 4spd if it isn't a Sandman (if it is a Sandman the M20 transmission is standard) but otherwise no other mechanical options. The only way you will possibly pick it as a Sandman is by console brackets, if it isn't a Sandman it will be floor shift, whereas a Sandman is console shift.

Deauville blue is one of the most common HJ Sandman van colours, but it is not so common on HJ Holden van - I only have 2 HJ Holden vans recorded whereas I have 24 HJ Sandman vans in 1898. If it is a Sandman it will have had XY5 (white) stripes rather than XX7 (black) in a box in the back of the van, either there when delivered or possibly the dealer fitted them depending upon the customer's wishes.
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#7 Posted : Wednesday, 22 November 2017 5:19:57 PM(UTC)
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Fantastic you have this sort of info on hand.
I found a welded bracket in-between the seats, and another close/just under dash? (I have photo's if that helps)
I have an engine number off an old rego sticker, QR734725.
Not confident this will be the original, from what I can tell it has been in a fairly decent accident at some stage.
No stickers on it as it was painted a different colour after accident.


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#8 Posted : Wednesday, 22 November 2017 6:15:23 PM(UTC)
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As long as they are all original with red lead over them sounds like console brackets to me, so i'd say you have a Sandman. It should also have a headlining that goes right back to the tailgate, with 0.039" thick strips welded along the drip rails of the roof panel, maybe 40mm wide that start at the cab and go to the back. These are for the headlining. Will be a piece at the back to hold it too.

That engine is from a 5/76 HJ, yours is QR681xxx. I wouldn't bother trying to find another, just use a 308 or better still yours is a perfect candidate for an EFI 5L and auto from a VN-VS, will bolt straight in using your sump and pickup and mounts, just have to find or make a TH350 gearbox crossmember for it, fit a TH400 speeedo cable and TH400 T-bar (bolts in the 4spd hole and console, just uses a different console insert and T-bar harness plugs straight into the HJ harness. Shorter tailshaft and a bit of wiring and fuel pump plumbing and you are away, you can buy harnesses already done and throttle cables already done too. Very easy conversion and you do not have to change the body in any way, the only mod will be to move the battery to the other side and make a hole to get the harness through the firewall near the glovebox, which I have seen done hidden through the fan housing. If you are interested contact me later and i'll help you out more with it.
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#9 Posted : Wednesday, 22 November 2017 7:33:06 PM(UTC)
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Byron, you've just told a bloke he' probably got a Sandman and then you advise to butcher it?
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#10 Posted : Wednesday, 22 November 2017 8:01:30 PM(UTC)
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Yes, but not butcher it. It is only a 253 without its original engine. Perfect candidate for a non body altering engine upgrade.
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Mounts look like they have been coated in something red (ish) looks oxidized maybe. No visible sign of tampering.
The roof lining goes all the way to a panel just off the tail gate where the hinges close into.
Didn’t get a chance to look for the strips last night, there are a few tears in the lining so should be easy to spot.


If it all sort of lines up is it worth restoring like a Sandman, or because there is no ‘documentation’ it won’t be considered one?

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#12 Posted : Thursday, 23 November 2017 12:22:58 PM(UTC)
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I’d do a sympathetic resto on it as it very much sounds like a Sandman. But as you no longer have the original engine and it is only a 253 put whatever driveline you like in it that doesn’t need body mods. SBC and TH400 or 4L60 fits easily, or even as simple as a carbied 308 and T5, Trimatic or whatever fits.
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