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#1 Posted : Wednesday, 2 February 2011 7:50:27 PM(UTC)
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G'day everyone
thinking of painting my ute silver
is there any helpful tips i could have about painting it silver?
or help preparation tips?
anything is very helpful

thanks

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#2 Posted : Wednesday, 2 February 2011 8:33:05 PM(UTC)
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Don't take any shortcuts.

A paint job is 95% preparation & 5% paint. The better the repairs, the better the finish.

Clean & thorough with all repairs is the secret.

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#3 Posted : Thursday, 3 February 2011 1:12:03 AM(UTC)
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how much sanding should i do?
the car is white now and ive been thinking of ether silver or blue
sand paper should i use for preparation?

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#4 Posted : Thursday, 3 February 2011 1:32:15 AM(UTC)
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Greetings, The colour of the sandpaper is not important. You need to sand off all the paint and get to the bare metal before you even think about putting on new paint. All old bog needs to be removed and be sure to use a system of paints/primers. Never mix brands! Good luck with the sanding.


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#5 Posted : Thursday, 3 February 2011 1:50:49 AM(UTC)
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colour change ,remove all paint ,prepare and prime,prepsol and paint,thats the short version....read details on the web are quite good,but ask painter friends aswell,or post up here during it.

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#6 Posted : Thursday, 3 February 2011 4:07:18 AM(UTC)
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what sort of paint do you plan on using?

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#7 Posted : Thursday, 3 February 2011 4:22:55 AM(UTC)
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Do a Google search for

'spray painting a car'

and you will get about a million results.

If it is old or rare - Cut it! http://www.ehlimo.com.au/
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#8 Posted : Thursday, 3 February 2011 5:17:17 AM(UTC)
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i have no idea what sort of paint i am going to use at this stage. i dont know weather to use 2 pac or acrylic, whats the best????
the colours im interested in are the new HSV colours
voodoo (blue)
nitrate (silver)
heron white

help???



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#9 Posted : Saturday, 5 February 2011 3:59:52 AM(UTC)
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I think you would be better to start with acrylic. Won't kill you like 2 pac will.
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#10 Posted : Sunday, 6 February 2011 5:33:41 PM(UTC)
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If you wanna show it use 2pack,if your only streeting it use acrylic,just done my van silver acyrlic...lot of work thou.
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#11 Posted : Sunday, 6 February 2011 9:18:12 PM(UTC)
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the colours im interested in are the new HSV colours
voodoo (blue)
nitrate (silver)
heron white
help???


White will be the easiest to paint, it's a solid colour.
You can paint just colour, or you can clear over it.
If you've never painted before, I'd be looking at doing a soloid colour like this white (or the HSV red, or even the new GTS yellow).

Silver is a metallic, and quite a bit harder to learn - you need to lay the colour down "dry-ish" so the metallic flakes don't sink, and clear over it. Getting your silver coats right will take some practice.
If you have plenty of time to learn, and really want silver, then get yourself some practice panels & start working on them. You'll know when you're ready to paint a car.

Voodoo blue - that's one even I wouldn't attempt at the moment, and I've done quote a bit of DIY painting. Colours like Voodoo have a pearl or candy mixed into the colour (not the clear as per traditional hot rod pearl & candy paint jobs) which is something holden started back in the mid 90s, and first referred to as "Mica" colours.
Getting a consistent, stable colour in this paint is very, very difficult, and the paint tends to be semi-transparent, so the base underneath, and how thick you spray it, plays a huge part.

Even with a lot of practice, it's very easy to end up with 2 different coloured panels, even when painted 30 seconds apart. "Stripes" in the pattern of the spraygun overlap is also a big issue. Best advice for this sort of colour is to get a base colour very similar (like VK Brock blue) and lay it down as a base. It will give you a more consistent top colour. You will need lots of practice with this one, and if you master it, the self-satisfaction will be enormous.


Candy paint jobs (a tinted clear coat, usually sprayed over silver, or another light, flaky metallic) were all the rage in the hotrod scene years ago - and still are to some extent, are very difficult to master, as the amount of clear over the top of the base colour affects the final shade.
In a show car, this spectacular finish is quite OK, but on a street car, if someone scrapes your door, you'll have to spray the whole side of the car to match it again. Voodoo uses a similar principle to candy - but it's mixed into the colour, not the clear. This gives it depth (but makes it hard to reproduce accurately).

So this is where having a consistent base colour is important. Keep it close to the final colour, and you'll improve your final colour shade consistently, and end up with a far better job. If you need to redo a panel, you use the same solid base, then the voodoo over the top, and it will give a closer, more consistent result.

Base colours can be used to your advantage too - as well as the example above, they can also be used to give an interesting effect, or change the shade of the colour in different lights.

Mazda had a colour out in the 90s called "Passion Rose" on the rounded 626 (last shape shared with the Testar). It looked pretty crap on the factory cars, as it was painted over a beige base coat. A mate painted a HQ Monaro in it, using a black base, and the thing was like a deep candy burgundy colour, and looked magic. The black base had a huge effect on the final colour shade.
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