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BIGCAV
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Posted - 26/06/2012 :  4:47:33 PM  Show Profile  Visit BIGCAV's Homepage  Reply with Quote
http://smh.drive.com.au/motor-news/not-the-kingswood-20120626-20zm3.html

Jonesy77
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Posted - 26/06/2012 :  6:53:07 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow sweet time capsual

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davequey74
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Posted - 26/06/2012 :  8:30:40 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
wow, that's amazing!!
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Oily
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Australia
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Posted - 26/06/2012 :  10:19:27 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I agree WOW!
Amuses me to read some of the comments in the smh as to why somebody would give preferential treatment to a HZ.
I was an apprentice when these were new and a few things come to mind, first was a petrol price scare which saw a lot of the new V8s fire saled, second was that some people that were very passionate about holdens (football meat pies kangaroos and holden cars) and had trouble accepting the new opel based commodore. Third the HZ 253 V8 from memory had a different camshaft and when new sounded quite sweet or LAST maybe he was just too scared of the facings falling of the clutches and blocking up the filter in the traumatic. Either way holden should be seriously interested in this car if it is true that they do not have any kingswoods in their collection as the build quality of these were quite good. A good example of 70,s engineering.
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HK1837
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Posted - 27/06/2012 :  07:21:55 AM  Show Profile  Visit HK1837's Homepage  Reply with Quote
It surprises me too that Holden doesn't want it, they'd buy it for $20k probably.

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Warren Turnbull
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Australia
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Posted - 27/06/2012 :  09:05:10 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
They are asking $40,000 on car sales.

http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/holden-kingswood-1980-12860402?base=1216&vertical=Car&eapi=2&Page=2&sort=default&cr=24&__N=1246 1247 1252 1282 4294965857 4294965683 1216 4294965682&silo=Stock&Range=Price:Min,Max~0.5

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cloudy
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Posted - 27/06/2012 :  7:39:06 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
shannons reckon 15-20k
I guess you could put it in a car show and win best original!

Edited by - cloudy on 27/06/2012 7:42:43 PM
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Jonesy77
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Posted - 29/06/2012 :  3:53:42 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah Original oil,fuel,air filter oil filter.

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Jul71-Oct74
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Posted - 30/06/2012 :  07:07:13 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Its a great find,but I wonder if the owners considered how much work will be needed to turn this into a runner again before they set the asking price at $40,000.




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Warren Turnbull
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Posted - 30/06/2012 :  09:42:51 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It is recieving a lot of intrest. Many people will have told the family "that would be worth a lot of money" "its a collector's item".

But what do you do with it if you buy it?

Put it on the raod and use it? But then it will add Ks to it, things will wear out and have to be changed and then as no longer a time capsule. (see that one of the battery leads spring rings has already been changed)

Put it in the shed and take it out and polish it? Thats an awfull lot of money to just have sitting there.

Also how many "collectors" are there for it to be a collector's item. I know some that have a couple of cars, but collectors of cars is very few.

Warren
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Jonesy77
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Posted - 30/06/2012 :  2:06:57 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I would leave it as a trailer queen and take it to car shows if they are interested,where would you find another one like that,definetly a one in a how many were made.

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wbute
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Australia
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Posted - 30/06/2012 :  2:42:52 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Put it in a car museum. Its amazing, but its just a Kingswood. It was a bad investment in my opinion. If it makes $40000 it will not be worth a lot more than the equivalent new commodore today. Would have made more money with interest in the bank......
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peter_flane
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Posted - 30/06/2012 :  8:54:26 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We have a 1977'ish Corolla at work that has only 1600km on it. Amazing time capsule, but no investment value.

If it is old or rare - Cut it! http://www.ehlimo.com.au/
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D. A. Barnes
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Posted - 01/07/2012 :  4:43:40 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That car is a SURVIVOR in the true sense of the word. Those POS on the cover and inside of Unique Cars magazine an issue or two back were not SURVIVOR cars by any stretch of the imagination.

Beautiful car this, and as Warren says just what to do with it apart from looking at it is another problem. It is only going to have the magical 3 digit low kilometres if you don't drive it.
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hqgts
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Posted - 01/07/2012 :  4:55:34 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
An old farmer down our way had a wb ute... Factory 308 4 speed..... Bought new in canberra 1982 drove it doen to the south coast.... Covered it nad never moved it.... Had 232 kilometres on the clock... I wanted to buy it he told me he wanted 35k for it..... I said its not worth that much to me.... If i drive it its just another wb ute in 5 years time... He laughed and said find another one.....

I heard it has gone to sydney... Not sure how much he got in the end
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Dr Terry
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Posted - 01/07/2012 :  5:35:38 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by hqgts

An old farmer down our way had a wb ute... Factory 308 4 speed..... Bought new in canberra 1982 drove it doen to the south coast.... Covered it nad never moved it.... Had 232 kilometres on the clock... I wanted to buy it he told me he wanted 35k for it..... I said its not worth that much to me.... If i drive it its just another wb ute in 5 years time... He laughed and said find another one.....

I heard it has gone to sydney... Not sure how much he got in the end


I know that car & it is in Sydney. It now has 290 km on the odo.

I've no idea what the new owner paid.

Dr Terry

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hqgts
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Posted - 01/07/2012 :  6:01:09 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Did it still have the 4 poster bullbar that the dealer fitted on it...

Same old farmer still has a portsea blue eh premier, white leather interior... Mint condition... Probably the best eh i have seen...

Edited by - hqgts on 01/07/2012 6:30:57 PM
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wbute
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Australia
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Posted - 01/07/2012 :  8:16:57 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hqgts

An old farmer down our way had a wb ute... Factory 308 4 speed..... Bought new in canberra 1982 drove it doen to the south coast.... Covered it nad never moved it.... Had 232 kilometres on the clock... I wanted to buy it he told me he wanted 35k for it..... I said its not worth that much to me.... If i drive it its just another wb ute in 5 years time... He laughed and said find another one.....

I heard it has gone to sydney... Not sure how much he got in the end


Factory 5 litre would make it one of the rarest Holdens ever made.
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wbute
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Posted - 01/07/2012 :  8:24:14 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by D. A. Barnes

That car is a SURVIVOR in the true sense of the word. Those POS on the cover and inside of Unique Cars magazine an issue or two back were not SURVIVOR cars by any stretch of the imagination.

Beautiful car this, and as Warren says just what to do with it apart from looking at it is another problem. It is only going to have the magical 3 digit low kilometres if you don't drive it.


That HZ is a car that never got driven. Its survived a life of doing nothing.
Those falcons have survived unrestored as daily drivers, they are in their real world working clothes.
It all depends if are describing a real life car in the real world, or what a judge is looking for at a car show I suppose.
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Dr Terry
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Posted - 01/07/2012 :  9:19:50 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by wbute

quote:
Originally posted by hqgts

An old farmer down our way had a wb ute... Factory 308 4 speed..... Bought new in canberra 1982 drove it doen to the south coast.... Covered it nad never moved it.... Had 232 kilometres on the clock... I wanted to buy it he told me he wanted 35k for it..... I said its not worth that much to me.... If i drive it its just another wb ute in 5 years time... He laughed and said find another one.....

I heard it has gone to sydney... Not sure how much he got in the end


Factory 5 litre would make it one of the rarest Holdens ever made.


I've seen quite a few 5-litre WB commercials. Even though they were not officially available. GM-H did make them for 'special' customers.

Dr Terry

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cloudy
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Posted - 02/07/2012 :  06:26:33 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
my mate had one it also had a GTS dash fitted and was a L31 on the plate.
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