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early sydney build hk premier - large tag has the numbers stamped like adelade
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#1 Posted : Tuesday, 2 February 2016 6:45:00 PM(UTC)
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has anybody ever seen the large tag on a Sydney build car stamped in like a Adelaide tag..it is on a very early build hk premier,the skinny tag has raised lettering as per normal..thanks .
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#2 Posted : Tuesday, 2 February 2016 7:24:05 PM(UTC)
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All Pagewood HK bodies were like that until not long before Brougham and Monaro release.

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#3 Posted : Tuesday, 2 February 2016 7:27:07 PM(UTC)
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ok thanks for clearing that up,your a great help..
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, 2 February 2016 8:11:06 PM(UTC)
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got another question if your up for it got a hk panel van and cant find trim or paint code for it trim is 828-16 O and paint is 585-0036, thanks again..
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#5 Posted : Wednesday, 3 February 2016 5:20:42 AM(UTC)
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I think that might be stamped 928, which is Hawthorn Green, a fleet colour. 585-0036 is Dulux code for Hawthorn Green paint.

16O might be 16C, which is Onyx Green interior trim.

After 40 or 50 years some of these aluminium plates are difficult to read.

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#6 Posted : Wednesday, 3 February 2016 8:58:34 AM(UTC)
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thanks for the reply, yes I think it is 928 and 16c , what do you mean by a fleet colour.
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#7 Posted : Wednesday, 3 February 2016 9:06:53 AM(UTC)
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It will be a colour specific to an industry or company. These were GMH Fleet customers.
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#8 Posted : Wednesday, 3 February 2016 9:31:50 AM(UTC)
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ok I understand, I wonder if there is anyway to tell who the fleet customer was, as the panelvan is about to be fully restored from a bare shell, so would be nice to know who actually ordered it as they may have had some sort of sign writing on it.that I could re-do, is the 928 the customer number, its nice to know the history of the car is starting to come forward, mostly from the great people on this site and there wealth of information,thanks again benny.
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#9 Posted : Wednesday, 3 February 2016 10:47:01 AM(UTC)
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928 is GMH's code for the paint colour (or in some cases for the combination of colours like white roof over body colour). 585-0036 isn't GMH's paint code, it is the paint manufacturer's codes for the product you use to refinish/repair the paint on the car. Not sure who used Hawthorn Green though.

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585-0036 isn't GMH's paint code, it is the paint manufacturer's codes for the product you use to refinish/repair the paint on the car. Not sure who used this though.


Panelbeaters used the Dulux number. It was the easiest method of getting the mixing formula for refinishing after collision repairs.

There are a lot a books which list all the different paint colours by these numbers. To my knowledge there is no 'official' GM-H combination code list though.

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I meant i'm not sure which GMH customer used Hawthorn Green, not who used the Dulux refinish code! I fixed my reply to make it clearer.

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Got it now.

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so hawthorn green was the colour specially designed for one of gmh customers for there fleet of cars,is that correct..???
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It might have been an early standard colour a company chose for their fleet and GMH kept building cars for them in that colour. It may have been a customer's own colour too.
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#15 Posted : Wednesday, 3 February 2016 4:28:24 PM(UTC)
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ok,i see, usually if I google a colour it will come up, but not in this case, I will email a quick letter to holden customer care and see what they can come up with.thanks.
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#16 Posted : Wednesday, 3 February 2016 4:58:05 PM(UTC)
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found an earlier enquiry from 2009 on this site with somebody else asking about this exact colour on an earlier ej model panel van, 928 trim code prefix and 585-0036 paint code, so might have been a customer with a fleet of vans.??? I would love to find out who had them.the van was assembled in Sydney so might have been a Sydney fleet customer.. thanks benny.

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#17 Posted : Wednesday, 3 February 2016 5:31:24 PM(UTC)
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Fleet colours are not always single customer. For example Brambles red is used by about 10 different companies as their fleet colour.

I have a list of companies and their fleet colours somewhere, if I can put my hands on it I shall have a look.

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#18 Posted : Wednesday, 3 February 2016 5:51:17 PM(UTC)
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ok that would be fantastic,thanks warren, even if there are a few, I could perhaps pick one of them and sign write the van in there company logo, when its finished. thanks again benny.
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#19 Posted : Thursday, 4 February 2016 12:05:43 AM(UTC)
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Is it a Melbourne vehicle by any chance?
MMTB used to use that colour.
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#20 Posted : Thursday, 4 February 2016 4:33:15 PM(UTC)
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it was made in Sydney and bought from qld but who knows where its been in the last 48 years, thanks benny.
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