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#21 Posted : Saturday, 27 September 2014 4:22:11 AM(UTC)
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Damn good eyes! I still am struggling to see it!
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#22 Posted : Sunday, 19 June 2016 11:19:00 PM(UTC)
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A few more differences I found between my HK subframe and what I think is a HT subframe, might be a HG I dont know.












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#23 Posted : Monday, 20 June 2016 8:56:42 AM(UTC)
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..The indent in the RH front of skirt may be for dual batteries fitted to emergency and fire service vehicles. We had a HQ or HG at trade school fitted up with two batteries and that was the explanation from one of the teachers ???
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#24 Posted : Monday, 20 June 2016 1:35:06 PM(UTC)
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I always thought it was for LHD battery but Dr Terry or Warren or someone else told me it probably was for a crumple area for frontal collision.
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#25 Posted : Monday, 20 June 2016 5:22:13 PM(UTC)
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No, it wasn't for a crumple zone per se. It was to have the metal stretch more neatly during pressing.

All HK/T/G batteries are factory mounted on the LH side & early HKs didn't get the indented step on the RH side. Also all wiring & battery harness in that area is the same for both RHD & LHD vehicles. If you get a chance to have close look at one of those early HKs without the step, you will see how bad the panel looks compared to the other side (with the step). I believe GM-H added the step section to the pressing to improves its looks. You will notice how much more uniform it looks with the with the step.

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#26 Posted : Tuesday, 21 June 2016 12:48:36 AM(UTC)
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This is my early HK subframe, definitely looks a bit average with the wrinkles in that area..

http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af75/hk186/20160403_134204_zpsjeib2u9r.jpg
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#27 Posted : Tuesday, 21 June 2016 8:21:53 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: hk350 Go to Quoted Post
This is my early HK subframe, definitely looks a bit average with the wrinkles in that area..

http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af75/hk186/20160403_134204_zpsjeib2u9r.jpg


Yeah, I think the guys in production must have noticed how much better the LH inner guard looked compared that (pictured). It would've been quite a simple fix, just copying that part of the tool to sit on the RH tool.

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#28 Posted : Monday, 27 February 2017 2:27:53 AM(UTC)
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I know this is an old thread, but I just spotted a base model HK monaro on the weekend which has the early type RH inner skirt on its subframe (the wrinkly one). According to the second owner, the subframe has never been removed from the car. This is an 80337 Dandenong build. Skinny tag number was 80337KJ127314. After reading this thread, I was expecting this car to have the later RH skirt type with the indent.

This car was sold at auction by Lloyds on the Gold Coast on the weekend.

Perhaps the gurus here would have a rough idea of the production date based on this tag number. Could it be that the change of skirt type occurred during different production months at each manufacturing plant?
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#29 Posted : Monday, 27 February 2017 5:05:12 AM(UTC)
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HK Monaros were built as a body as far back as September 1967, but the first cars were assembled starting March 1968. There were a lot of Monaros built in June and July 1968, and a significant amount before GTS production. Dandenong's first cars were completed by 23rd May 1968.

As far as I am aware the wrinkly RH inner skirt was used prior to around September 1968. So there will be large amount of Monaro and GTS with that skirt.

I will find out when a vehicle with that PSN might have been built, the problem with only getting the VIN though is these wee allocated when the car went into the schedule at Dandenong, so it is the first number the car gets. The chassis and body numbers with the VIN gives a better picture.
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#30 Posted : Monday, 27 February 2017 6:34:05 PM(UTC)
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The HK in question is a pre 8/68 as it has the body id plate on the firewall. My HK was Post 1/8/68 as it had the body id plate on the cowl, regoed 20/8/68 and it had the "no battery tray" RH inner guard.
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#31 Posted : Wednesday, 1 March 2017 8:40:41 AM(UTC)
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Thanks for the response gentlemen. The firewall number was HK22465M and apparently it was sold new in March 1969.

This was a good example of an unmolested survivor car. The car sold for $71,000 at the weekend auction which was higher than I expected.
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#32 Posted : Wednesday, 1 March 2017 1:03:26 PM(UTC)
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GMH made a lot of Monaros before they made bulk GTS. There was around 300 Monaro from Pagewood alone before my two yellow GTS's (GTS 20 and GTS327 2). We think none of these were console shift. It is known that some of these cars were not sold until 1969, such was the demand for GTS. This car may be one of those hangovers. I'm not sure where the chassis number places it, but if Dandenong assembled similar numbers to Pagewood it is about July 1968. Remember though that this is prior to 1970 so no build date. If you were buying a 6/68 assembled car in 3/69 not only are you buying a near 9 month old car, but a 307 powered car would also have an engine first fired maybe in October 1967 in Canada!
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